You’ve Got Mail – Follow Up to Oprah’s Interview – Ellen DeGeneres Getting Kicked Out After Coming Out

 

I stand for honesty, equality, kindness, compassion, treating people the way you want to be treated, and helping those in need. To me, those are traditional values.
I learned compassion from being discriminated against. Everything bad that’s ever happened to me has taught me compassion.

Ellen DeGeneres

 

Published on Apr 11, 2018

 

One mother’s unconditional love

 

Rob,

I love how Ellen and Oprah and all the new programs coming out now to help  the lesbian and gay community… are reaching out to  many to help them cope, to offer counseling to parents of these children and to, if they do not know how, learn what  unconditional love is.   I am the mom of a man who is ” different”  and all my life my family has not given him credit for being  a genius….they have not felt comfortable around him and just lately some have told me to give up on him..that I need to go live my own life.. Can you believe that? How could any parent even have a life if they disowned a child of theirs.   Wouldn’t you always wonder how they were. What they were needing you could get them. What support they needed in their job or at school. I mean…to me it makes more sense for the  gay or lesbian or different kids to disown their parents  and kick them out.

 I mean I will never give up loving my son. I will never give up trying to make sure he has the best. I will never give up on adoring him.  If he turns out gay it is fine with me because that means  that he will be loved, and have someone to sit with at night, to read with, talk to..snuggle with, be comforted by.

I say  keep doing what you are doing..with all your heart…as each new awareness brings hope for acceptance  and also brings a more enlarged community that will support people who are kicked out..and they will have a loving family around them all the time …I am grateful for that .

 

All of us can sit in the lap of Jesus and say nothing…absolutely nothing…..and BE LOVED.

 

“I wish it had not happened in my tine,” said Frodo. ” So do I , “said Gandalf, and so do we all who live in such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time given to us.’ JRR Tolkien   “The Hobbit”

 

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Did the Christian Science Periodicals Play A Role In Ellen DeGeneres Getting Kicked Out After Coming Out?| The Oprah Winfrey Show | OWN

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I felt so heartbroken watching this.
Sari Maaret
Ellen is the light of the world! Thank you for all joy and love you radiate and share with others, Ellen!
rainbowrabbit
The moral of the story is be careful how you treat people. Ellen’s dad is now in his 90’s and ended up needing her help with his living arrangements since he’s old and has trouble moving around.
Vipasha Arvind
I hope OWN does a where are they now on the people sitting in the audience who did not understand and were so ignorant… it ll be fun to know if they still have the same opinions or have they now accepted the truth..
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It is sad to know that … today there are still shameful heartless parents who would disown their children for something they did not choose.

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In a 1997 ‘Oprah Show’ appearance, Comedian/TV star Ellen DeGeneres reveals how she coped with family who saw her sexual orientation as a danger. For more on #oprahwinfreyshow, visit http://bit.ly/1ODj0x7

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Executive Summary of Christian Science Board of Directors visit on January 23, 2018

 

*Updated 2/10/2018 at 1:10 PM MST

Excerpt below by Rob Scott

 

A 1980 issue of The Christian Science Journal makes the following claim about Christian Science: “To summarize: Christian Science insists that homosexuality is healable, because it has no more validity than any other erroneous state… All such errors must sooner or later yield to the regenerating power of God … in fact, there is only one kind of man—perfect, normal in every way, the beloved of God.”
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I brought to the [Christian Science Board of Directors – The Mother Church] attention the harm the anti-gay articles are causing our youth as a reason why parents are forcing there LGBT kids out of the house.  Some youth ended up on the streets and were driven to utter destitution [or suicide].

There are several reasons parents reject their LGBT youth,” said Telaina Eriksen, author of “Unconditional: A Guide to Loving and Supporting Your LGBTQ Child.” “Sometimes it is based on religion; they think that their child is a sinner or that their child needs to be punished so they see ‘the error of their ways.’ They might think if they force their child to leave their home, their child may return repenting, magically somehow no longer LGBT.”

She said that parents who reject their LGBT child need to do some work on themselves, because the problem is theirs, not their child’s.

If the parent is inclined to get angry, lash out at their child or kick them out of the house, they should think about how they would feel if their child were to die tomorrow. Because that could really happen if a parent withdraws emotional, physical and financial support from their minor child,” Eriksen said.

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Thank you Rob for your recent article/comment.  I am still a member of a branch church, but those [anti-gay Christian Science] articles in the 1970’s-90’s did a lot of damage to my self-worth; I still struggle even after I have come out as a gay man (in my late ’50’s).  I have had no intimate companionship during all those decades, while I watched my ‘straight’ friends getting married, having kids and forming families.  It’s been lonely out there.  So Rob, thanks for bringing this to the attention of the CS movement and hopefully, the CS Board of Directors.  I wrote them a couple of years ago and received no significant answer other than a quick pat on the head “everyone is loved by God”; true, but what about the human institution?

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… when repressed homosexuality reared its head after I had Class Instruction, there was no one in my Father’s House to take up the slack or meet the need. But Life has a way anyway!
My teacher could not make gay go away! I spent a lot of time beating up on myself. I was saddled with a lot of false teaching and false human opinion about gayness and, for that very reason, unclear views of Christian Science.
For this very reason I am still not very keen today about the human organization called church …
The present manifestation of church is not at all what Mrs. Eddy intended it to be!

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It’s #TrueColorsDay, 2018! – End LGBTQ Youth Homelessness

End LGBTQ Youth Homelessness

“It’s #TrueColorsDay! LGBTQ youth are 120% more likely to experience homelessness. Together, we can change that.

 

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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, or questioning (LGBTQ) young people are 120% more likely to experience homelessness than non-LGBTQ youth. While many factors contribute to LGBTQ youth homelessness, identity-based family rejection is the most commonly cited reason.

In order to do that, we need to understand the issue and the ways in which we can all play a role in ending it. That’s why we launched #TrueColorsDay (formerly known as #40toNoneDay), a national day to raise public awareness about LGBTQ youth homelessness, and to provide supporters with simple ways to make a difference. This year we’ll also be hosting a series of live conversations online!

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Cyndi Lauper

When I was growing up in the ‘60s I was inspired and empowered by the Civil Rights Movement. Not only was the minority standing up for themselves and saying enough is enough, people in the majority stood alongside them as this country went through one of the most transformative periods in its history.

A moment like that is upon us again and this time the minority is the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community. This time it is straight people who are beginning to stand side by side with their family, friends, co-workers and neighbors to say that this country is about equality, fairness and that never ending pursuit of happiness.

That is one of the reasons why we founded the True Colors Fund, to lend a helping hand in encouraging my straight peers to get informed and give a damn about equality.

While great strides have been made in recent years, when people can still be fired in over half the states because they are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender… when young people are so bullied and tormented that they feel their only way out of that hell is to end their lives… it’s clear we still have a long, long way to go before we achieve full equality and acceptance in this country.

In particular, we need to help young gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. Kids who are coming to terms with their sexual orientation or gender identity are often told by their families, peers, and other influential people in their lives that who they are is somehow shameful or unacceptable. They are often rejected and thrown out of their own homes.

We all hear statistics that are shocking, but when I learned that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender youth make up to 40% of all homeless youth, yet only 7% of the general youth population in this country, I was furious.

As a parent, I cannot understand those who would kick out their kid simply because they are gay or transgender. Your child is a part of you, throwing them out on the street is like ripping out a part of your own soul. That is why the True Colors Fund continues to work to raise awareness about this issue and develop solutions to ending this epidemic. We will not rest until that percentage goes from 40 to none.

Everyone—whether straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender—should be allowed to show their true colors, and be accepted and loved for who they are. Every American should be guaranteed equal treatment, at school, at work, in their relationships, in service of their country…and in every part of their lives.

It’s time for us all to join together and say enough is enough. I hope you will stand with us as we continue to move our work forward.

All my best,

cyndi

https://truecolorsfund.org/about/a-message-from-cyndi/


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Britain’s Prime Minister Theresa May – “It’s time to listen, learn, and heal.”

 

Britain’s Prime Minister Theresa May said she “deeply” regretted the UK’s role in fueling “discrimination, violence and even death” as nobody should be persecuted for “who they are or who they love.”
“It’s time to listen, learn, and heal.”
“I am all to aware that these laws were often put in place by my own country, They were wrong then and they are wrong now,” May said.
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LGBT Campaigners Hope British PM’s Apology Over Anti-Gay Laws Will Fuel Change

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LONDON, April 17 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – LGBT campaigners were hopeful on Tuesday that a call by British Prime Minister Theresa May for Commonwealth countries to reform outdated anti-gay legislation would help to stop widespread persecution and discrimination.

Speaking as leaders of the 53 Commonwealth nations met in London, May said she “deeply” regretted the UK’s role in fuelling “discrimination, violence and even death” as nobody should be persecuted for “who they are or who they love.”

About 37 of the 53 mostly former British colonies still have colonial era laws which criminalize lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) identities with same sex sexual activity punishable by life imprisonment in nine of those countries.

LGBT campaigners have used the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) to call for Britain to apologise and push for change, launching a petition, a picket and lighting up the Houses of Parliament with a call for decriminalisation.

Activists said they hoped May’s comments would start to change the conversation in countries where LGBT people are treated as criminals and help to reverse the harm caused.

Jamaican activist Glenroy Murray said May’s comments were a “necessary step in acknowledging and expressing regret about a historical reality that has impacted LGBT people everywhere.”

Rosanna Flamer-Caldera, executive director of Sri Lankan LGBT organisation Equal Ground, said the speech “paves the way for making some positive change for the LGBT communities of the Commonwealth”, nations home to about 2.4 billion people.

I welcome this acknowledgement of the deep wounds left in our countries by bad colonial laws, wounds from which many of us are still bleeding today,” Malaysian activist Pang Khee Teik told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

It’s time to listen, learn, and heal.”

Some activists, however, did not think May’s comments would lead to permanent change even though she said Britain would support any country wanting reform.

I am all to aware that these laws were often put in place by my own country, They were wrong then and they are wrong now,” May said.

Founder of NAZ Male Health Alliance in Pakistan, Qasim Iqbal, said May needed to create a policy on how the British government would help end discrimination.

“The prime minister needs to now present an advocacy framework on what role the UK government will play in ensuring that the entire Commonwealth is a place where people have the freedom to love a person of their choice,” he told the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

(Reporting by Meka Beresford @mekaberesford, Editing by Belinda Goldsmith; ((Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women’s rights, trafficking, property rights, climate change and resilience. Visit http://news.trust.org)0)

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Harmony with Laura Moliter

 

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“Let us learn of the real and eternal, and prepare for the reign of Spirit, the kingdom of heaven, — the reign and rule of universal harmony, which cannot be lost nor remain forever unseen.”

(Science and Health, page 208)

Reality is harmony. God’s kingdom consists of goodness, justice, peace, health, kindness, unity, fruitfulness. This is heaven and it is ready for us.
Are we ready for it? Are we prepared to learn and accept the real and eternal, and enter those gates into that harmonious realm? Or are we delaying its appearance in our lives by our disbelief, our arguments to the contrary, our fixation on the material presentations rather than on the spiritual Truth?
God is Love. We can lean into this promise that, yes, this universal rhythm of God’s grace can’t go unseen or unheard. We are each being led to discover more of what is really going on, and we must respond to this call. Let’s argue less with our inspirations and insights and truly accept that God is telling us something. He is leading us to see heaven—not in some faraway place and time, but in our own consciousness.
This understanding makes itself known in our experiences. As thought yields to the divine fact, our lives come into accord with the natural law of Love and Life, controlled by God, and expressing goodness, joy, and harmony to be appreciated, lived, and shared.

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Chilling Study Sums Up Link Between Religion And Suicide For Queer Youth

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Chilling Study Sums Up Link Between Religion And Suicide For Queer Youth

“Religious groups who stigmatize LGBT people should be aware of the potential damage they can do.”
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The percentage of queer youth who think about suicide is significantly higher than the percentage of straight youth who

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The percentage of queer youth who think about suicide is significantly higher than the percentage of straight youth who do so.

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Analyzing this data, the research team found that while 3.7 percent of heterosexual young adults reported recent thoughts of suicide, the percentages were significantly higher among queer youth. Those questioning their sexuality had the highest rate of recent thoughts about suicide at 16.4 percent, followed by bisexual individuals (11.4 percent) and lesbian or gay individuals (6.5 percent).

Five percent of heterosexual youth reported attempting suicide in their lifetimes, compared to 20 percent of bisexual youth, 17 percent of questioning youth and 14 percent of gay or lesbian youth.

Notably, the study authors found that religion may have acted as a protective factor against suicide attempts among heterosexual youth. Each increase in the level of importance of religion among straight youth was associated with a 17 percent reduction in recent suicide attempts.

On the other hand, for lesbian and gay youth, increasing levels of religious importance were associated with increased odds of recent suicidal ideation. In fact, lesbian and gay youth who said that religion was important to them were 38 percent more likely to have had recent suicidal thoughts, compared to lesbian and gay youth who reported religion was less important. Religiosity among lesbians alone was linked to a 52 percent increased chance of recent suicidal ideation.

Questioning youth who said religion was important to them were nearly three times as likely to have attempted suicide recently, compared to questioning youth who reported religion was less important.

For bisexual individuals, the importance of religion was not significantly associated with suicidal ideation or suicide attempts.

Overall, sexual minorities were also more likely than straight youth to report that religion was not important to them.

Blosnich said that sexual minorities who have greater religious belief may experience conflict between their faith and their sexual identity.

“It can be very scary to be caught in a space where your religion tells you that you are a ‘sinner’ just for being who you are,” he told HuffPost. “Sexual minority people may feel abandoned, they may experience deep sadness and anger, and they may worry what this means for their families ― especially if their families are very religious too.”

Studies conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have also found that lesbian, gay and bisexual youth seriously contemplate or attempt suicide at higher rates than heterosexual youth.

Blosnich said he’s not sure if societal changes since 2011 ― most notably the national legalization of same-sex marriage ― would lead to different results today. Large-scale surveys that ask about suicidal behavior, sexual orientation and religion are “very rare,” he said, which is why the team used the 2011 data. That survey looked only at college students, which means the findings may also not be generalizable to the broader LGBQ community.

The authors noted that the original data also did not include questions about whether respondents’ religions advocated stigmatizing beliefs about sexual minorities.

There are some serious questions we have to begin asking ourselves if maintaining one interpretation of our sacred text is demonstrably linked to bodily harm and spiritual devastation for an entire group of people.Amelia Markham, a queer Christian activist

While several mainline Protestant and even evangelical leaders have begun to embrace a more inclusive theology, some of America’s largest religious denominations still hold non-affirming views of queer sexuality. Roman Catholic Church doctrine views gay and lesbian relationships as “intrinsically disordered.” The largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., the Southern Baptist Convention, sees marriage as exclusively reserved for one man and one woman and actively rejects equating gay rights with civil rights.

While these conservative denominations instruct believers to treat lesbian, gay and bisexual individuals with love, most encourage queer people to either remain celibate their entire lives or enter into mixed-orientation marriages.

Amelia Markham is a queer Christian activist with The Reformation Project, which works for the inclusion of LGBTQ people in the Christian church. She thinks Blosnich’s study demonstrates that for many queer people, non-affirming theology is at best problematic and at worst lethal ― “no matter how kindly or compassionately” it is articulated, she told HuffPost.

A number of Christian leaders are working toward a more nuanced view of queer sexuality, Markham said, but more needs to be done.

“There are some serious questions we have to begin asking ourselves if maintaining one interpretation of our sacred text is demonstrably linked to bodily harm and spiritual devastation for an entire group of people,” Markham said. “That is something I hope religious folks across the board would begin to think and pray more critically through.”

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In Utah, where the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is based, researchers have documented a recent spike in teen suicides. Some advocates forLGBTQ Mormon teens have asserted that the spike is connected to the church’s policies on queer sexuality, although research hasn’t confirmed this link.

The Mormon church views queer relationships as sinful. In November 2015, it declared that Mormons in such relationships were to be considered apostates.

Diane Oviatt, a Mormon mother with a gay son, is part of Mama Dragons, a group of parents who have banded together to advocate for their queer children. She believes that non-affirming theology has a “direct” effect on suicidal ideation among LGBTQ youth and young adults. The Mormon church prioritizes marriage and formation of a “traditional” family, she said, and LGBTQ Mormons struggle with the fact that they don’t fit into that mold.

“There is absolutely no room for homosexuality anywhere in the doctrine,” she told HuffPost. “Our kids are stripped of hope and faced with the notion that they, by virtue of their sexual identity, are ruining their celestial ‘forever’ family and will be separated from them in the hereafter if they choose a same-sex partner.”

The only options left to queer Mormon teens are celibacy or mixed-orientation marriages, “both of which have extremely high levels of dissatisfaction and despair,” Oviatt said.

What LGBTQ kids need, she said, are religious communities that accept them wholeheartedly.

The Naming Project is one such community. The Christian ministry, which seeks to create safe spaces for LGBTQ youth, organizes an annual summer camp in Minnesota for teens of any sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression.

Project director Ross Murray said that ministries like his aim to provide support and affirmation to youth who may feel rejected by their own faith communities. When more religious groups affirm LGBTQ teens as their “whole and authentic selves,” he said, it will lead to healthier adult LGBTQ people of faith.

“When religious communities are affirming and supportive of identity, including sexual orientation and gender identity, then the people within those communities are going to develop into much healthier and better-functioning individuals who understand themselves and how they relate to the rest of the world,” Murray said.

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As a child growing up in a non-affirming church, Isaac Archuleta said he experienced depression, anxiety, low self-esteem and substance abuse. Today, he identifies as bisexual and serves as the interim executive director of the Q Christian Fellowship. As a Colorado-based psychotherapist, he focuses on providing therapy to LGBTQ clients and their religious families.

Archuleta said he believes mental health providers should always affirm their clients’ sexual orientation and gender identity. Counselors who, for religious reasons, do not truly accept their LGBTQ clients end up promoting the shame from which their clients need to be rescued. They’re “working against love even though they preach a message of love,” he said.

Studies like the one conducted by Blosnich’s team are necessary, Archuleta argued, to help educate the non-affirming church.

“The most devastating effect for children in non-affirming religious environments, in my opinion, is an identity distortion that teaches the child to feel valueless as a relational being,” Archuleta said. “When a child feels unwelcome, too damaged for relationships, we strip them of their very purpose and sense of worth.”

“For a religion to have such a capacity and the willingness to maintain that maladaptive power is, in my opinion, antithetical to the God of love.”

 

Rising above adversity with Mark Swinney, C.S.B.

 

Planes rise more quickly if they take off not with the wind, but against it. Similarly, by bravely turning and facing adverse winds, we can rise, and rise confidently, in the strength of Spirit. When we pray to see that we are at one with God as His spiritual expression, we see more clearly that adversity actually cannot thwart us – that divine energy and strength are ours to express in victory over adversity. This lifts us to love God and our fellow men and women more fully. We experience healing. And we find a more natural joy and a deeper peace.

 

 

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COMMENTARY A CHRISTIAN SCIENCE PERSPECTIVE

Rising above adversity

Today’s contributor shares how a friend overcame a life-threatening disease through an increasing spiritual conviction of God’s healing power.

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When we’re facing adversity – whether in the form of injustice, resentment, lack, betrayal, or illness – we may feel that we’re completely on our own. I certainly have felt that way!

Yet at times like that I’ve found encouragement in the Bible’s book of Psalms, where it says, “Blessed is the man whose strength is in You” (84:5, New King James Version). The “You” in that verse is God, whose love and goodness are without limit, always here and available to us. When we let the consciousness of this divine Love well up in us, we feel more cared for and confident. We come to see that the strength needed to succeed over adversity is actually always present because its source is God. This doesn’t mean the path is always easy, but step by step we can experience the power of these ideas to heal and uplift.

A friend of mine found this when she was diagnosed with a disease that threatened her life. For a while, she felt alone each day – alone with the symptoms. But she found herself praying with all her heart. Each day she asked God for an inspiring thought, and she would get one. She might discover such an idea as she studied the Bible or as she read the writings of Mary Baker Eddy, who founded The Christian Science Monitor. Or sometimes inspiration would just come to her as she quietly prayed.

These were spiritual ideas she was glimpsing, reminding her of everyone’s inherent strength and wholeness as the spiritual creation of God, divine Spirit. All day long, no matter what she was doing, she would keep whatever idea that had come to mind close to her heart, pondering it, loving it, and loving God, too.

Mary Baker Eddy herself faced and overcame remarkable adversity through her understanding of Spirit’s infinite goodness. Her book “Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures” encourages readers: “Rise in the strength of Spirit to resist all that is unlike good. God has made man capable of this, and nothing can vitiate the ability and power divinely bestowed on man” (p. 393).

Mrs. Eddy’s example for this was Christ Jesus, who understood better than anyone what it means to rise in the strength of God, enabling him to express that strength in healing others. Not just for a few, but for every single one of us, this strength is divinely bestowed. When we really hunger to know God as Spirit and ourselves as His completely spiritual creation, we find that divine strength naturally empowers and lifts us.

After a few weeks of praying with ideas like this, my friend could feel herself rising up, confident in God’s power. She came to know that she wasn’t alone, wasn’t simply a mortal facing the adversity of disease. Each day, as she turned to divine Spirit, her perspective was changed a little bit for the better. She realized more clearly that health and strength have their source in God and therefore can never run out. Ultimately, she was permanently healed and went into a career where she could be of great service to others.

Planes rise more quickly if they take off not with the wind, but against it. Similarly, by bravely turning and facing adverse winds, we can rise, and rise confidently, in the strength of Spirit. When we pray to see that we are at one with God as His spiritual expression, we see more clearly that adversity actually cannot thwart us – that divine energy and strength are ours to express in victory over adversity. This lifts us to love God and our fellow men and women more fully. We experience healing. And we find a more natural joy and a deeper peace.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/A-Christian-Science-Perspective/2018/0412/Rising-above-adversity

Dancing on My Own

 

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. 
I will undo all that afflict thee: and I will save her that halteth, and gather her that was driven out; and I will get them praise and fame in every land where they have been put to shame.

Zephaniah 3:17, 19 I will,
From Concord Express – A Christian Science Study Resource: The King James Version of the Bible and Mary Baker Eddy’s published writings

 

 

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How Calum Scott Turned His Painful Coming Out Into A Compelling Debut Album

With “Only Human,” the “Britain’s Got Talent” veteran makes an impressive splash.
Calum Scott released his debut album, “Only Human,” March 9. 

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